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William Killian <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:11:20 -0500
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>From:    Denise Davis <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: For the Anonymous Poster  on Randy Horton's Shelter
 
We have no first hand knowledge of the shelter in question.  So we have
no comments on the shelter specifically.
 
BUT...
 
>Until you have lived day to day operating a shelter, YOU HAVE NO ROOM
>TO TALK!  AND I SAY THIS NOT NICELY!
 
This is a very bad idea.  If a shelter (not meaning Randy's since we do
not know) was in a bad way, someone should speak up and try to help.
 
Whether the "whistle blower" does or does not also run a shelter is
irrelevant to whether there is a problem with a shelter.  Running a shelter
is no excuse for neglect.  If someone runs a shelter and is getting in
trouble, they should speak up.  If they do not that for the sake of the
ferrets there someone else should.
 
>And If most of these ferrets are not placed in shelters, they would be put
>down.(LIKE DEAD)  So which is better???  Shelter or Death?
 
That isn't always so simple.  A cruel situation is cruel whether it is in
a shelter that is supposed to be as far from cruel as possible.  If as is
unfortunately too common an occurrence the poor ferrets are in a shelter
where they are effectively tortured, how long should they be in pain?
 
We are not saying that Randy's shelter is torturing ferrets.
 
Anonymous messages are needed but they should be used very carefully.  If
one is posting anonymously they should take an extra care to be absolutely
accurate.  But again we can not speak from first hand knowledge in this
case.
 
>From:    XXX XXXXXXXX <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: FerretTV.com, Renny, Slinky, Thanks
>
>[Moderator's note: You are correct, we all did agree to a moratorium on
>posts mentioning you or the Killians.  Sorry I let it through.  BIG]
 
Perhaps any "moratorium" should also include XXX from bashing Modern
Ferret.
 
We defend those unfairly bashed whomever they might be.
 
bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets
 
[Moderator's note: Responding with facts to attack issues is always
appropriate.  Repsonding by attacking the person instead of the issues
is not.  BIG]
[Posted in FML issue 3226]

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